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[Crakka]

I've been watching and waiting to see just what might be used in this country to start closing parks and possibly even be used to control public land in NZ as has been done overseas to create large controlled wilderness areas not open to the public.

Is Kauri Dieback our first "nail" in the coffin? It was headline story on TV3 news tonight and only a few phrases in was the remark that the closing of parks was not being ruled out!

The very interesting thing is that Kauri Dieback was only discovered late last year and is a brand new disease that nobody knows anything about! Uhhh yeah right. Here's the ARC (hmmm no biblical reference intended?) official Kauri Dieback info website - http://www.arc.govt.nz/parks/our-parks/before-you-go-to-a-park/kauri-dieback-disease-how-you-can-help.cfm

As far as I'm aware that page went up last November. From that page -


"At this stage there are no plans to close parks or reserves, but it is something we may have to consider in the future."


The TV3 news link with the article video is here - http://www.3news.co.nz/Mystery-disease-devastating-North-Island-kauri/tabid/316/articleID/88294/cat/525/Default.aspx

Note the regular use of emotive terms throughout the article such as in the headline and first sentence -


Mystery disease devastating North Island kauri

The mighty kauri, an icon of the New Zealand forest, is under attack from a disease that has the potential to devastate its population. The disease, known as kauri dieback, was discovered just last year.

And while we're on the topic of trees here's yet another BBC propaganda piece entitled "Climate shift 'killing US trees'" - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7841030.stm

From that article -


"After ruling out a variety of other possible factors, including insect attacks and air pollution, the researchers concluded that regional warming was the dominant contributor"


And then this. PLEASE NOTE THE HIGHLIGHTED TEXT ESPECIALLY THE VERY LAST LINE!!! Ahhh now we know what they're up to don't we?!!! :wink: Feel free to spread this around to all and sundry and show them just WHY we are seeing brand new diseases popping up out of thin air that will be "proof" of global warming (*cough*bullshit*cough*) and have the very real potential to close our forests and give officials yet another reason to come onto private land!


"As regional warming caused an increased number of trees to die, there would be less living trees to absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

Yet there would be an increased proportion of decaying trees, releasing the carbon that had been locked away inside the trees' wood.

Warmer temperatures might also increase the number and prevalence of insects and diseases that attack trees, the team added.

They used the example of recent outbreaks of tree-killing bark beetles in the US, which have been linked to a rise in temperatures.

Another member of the team, Dr Nate Stephenson, said increasing tree deaths could indicate a forest that was vulnerable to sudden, widespread die-back."

[Crakka]

As a postscript (as I always do!) that BBC article was only 2 days old so well-timed as you can see. They always string everything together worldwide you see :wink:

Also, as we know, the world is actually cooling based on FACTUAL climate records (not computer models) from all over the globe and backed up with ACTUAL ice core samples. Why then are things like dieback popping up when they are supposed to be linked to the opposite effect of what's ACTUALLY happening climatewise? Hmmm, I wonder.

Another interesting thing... I head at the end of last listening to a radio show that a UN funded wildlife & environmental research team was here to study & catalogue our ecosystem and report back on any weird & wonderful new discoveries! Coincidence? I just wish I'd have written down details as I was listening but I was travelling while working and didn't think to do so at the time.

[Crakka]

Obviously that was supposed to be "...heard at the end of last year..." :oops:

[secondfield]

Alarming bit of dot connecting crakka .....

They would have a hard time implementing it nationwide here..

:wink:

[Crakka]

Haha! Not too hard to do when you get a series of events like that and everything starts happening around the same time. In the last few months or so I seem to have had an uncanny knack of turning on commercial radio & TV for brief moments right at opportune times and then reading related articles on various news pages. Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not trolling for this stuff all the time - I mainly work outdoors & my time online is limited despite what I post here (and the times I appear to be around!). Just that uncanny timing & chance synchronicity seems to throw all this stuff at me!

But yeah, alarming may be right. I've actually been watching out for changes here since hearing things about those wilderness areas in the US. I know from experience that DOCs been visiting residents in various areas around the Waitakeres with traps for rats, etc in conjunctions with signage about kauri dieback and even disinfectant footbaths going in around the place. Who knows what else they note down when they're on private land (maybe how many kauri trees, etc???).

As for a hard time implementing it (park closure?) here - I don't think it'd be as hard as you think the way the public can so easily be fooled into backing anything for "biosecurity". Especially when confronted with the emotive bullcrap they put into news headlines - just read that TV3 article and see the interviewed public response.

[schadow2012]

i was on a forum last week and one of the topics being discussed was aerial spraying for moths that r destroying trees (texas i think) (not painted apple but close and i cant remembr wot) - it was very much a case of "unfortunately been there done that" maybe tht ties in somehow ..... :idea:

[Niksta]

The dark age of Kali fornya - lettuce spray for love and light :shock:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/103723.php

there is no link between last fall's aerial spraying for the Apple Moth and the hundreds of illness complaints filed shortly thereafter.

The Governator will sort it out and save the people from the nasty chemical companies right? * buzzzz * wrong answer!

Funny you should have mentioned this one Crakka, as I was just thinking this morning how Dept of Confiscation has munted NZ. The desire to turn the world into the giant nature park for our masters.

And how sometime ago, and I don't have any links but it was funny in a tragic way, how some greeny fuzzwit was saying "ohhh noooo some rare plant has just died right away, it used to be so prolific in this area, and is virtually extinct" - and then some farmer from the adjoining property came out and said "umm actually I have to cut this back it's so invasive" :D

I certainly think we can expect more fun and games that will test the sanity of those who still have a couple of intact braincells.

[Niksta]

Oh .. just looking at the openUReyes site. Wonderfull stuff, and thought I might put this link up, given some folks might be still looking for vids to get up to speed with this lovely world of wokensheep

http://www.dedroidify.com/vids/

Some links don't work but there's still enough to keep the kids amused in the holydayze. :D

[Crakka]

Consolidated "ownership" of EVERYTHING on this planet is definitely at the heart of a lot of things that have been going on around us! Anyone with half a clear brain can figure that out.

[Crakka]

And by the looks of it solohawke has just posted a link to Alan Watt's latest blurb that appears to deal with this very "opwnership of everything" thought here - http://www.mysteriousnewzealand.co.nz/forums/viewtopic.php?p=8027#8027

(although I haven't listened to it)

[schadow2012]

and there we go :P :D

[Tranceformer]

Hi Crakka

What do you think is the reason that they would want to stop people from going into Parks? (Other than the alleged reason to stop this disease being spread.)

Cheers

[Crakka]

I probably made more of a deal about that point here by starting off my spiel with it than I should've actually but there's a valid reason for mentioning it! Really my main point with this thread was related to the link scientists are making between global warming and the supposed prevalence of new disease & pest problems just popping up.

However, it all basically feeds into the same machine. Sometimes things that are happening now, and in this case with regard to the possible closing of parks to stop the spread of disease, seem pretty simple & straightforward enough. To the casual observer anyone linking this with some agenda down the line might surely appear overly suspicious. But when you start joining dots and you realise how things are done ever so incrementally in a way that aclimatises people psychologically to accepting certain scenarios, it's not hard to start to see where the apparently innocent, standalone events of today might possibly be part of the greater plan.

One thing that might be easy to grasp here is the securing of resource-rich land for future exploitation by corporations. Something a little more conpiratorial though is the notion of squeezing everybody off the land and eventually forcing us all to live close together in large urban "habitat" areas for various reasons I don't need to elaborate on. There are many articles & publications that deal with this topic and people like Alex Jones, Alan Watt and many others regularly discuss this topic. Here's a brief one just touching on the subject at Parallell Normal from May 2007 that even mentions Alan Watt's discussions re The UN's Agenda 21 which outlines the plan for human habitats - http://parallelnormal.com/2007/05/02/financiers-bureaucrats-intensify-push-for-human-habitats/

Also, here's an aspect you might not have read elsewhere or considered -

In 1982, the United Nations World Commission on Environment and Development was created to set the stage for unlimited enactments to take over ecology and pollution laws throughout the world; to create a "Mother Earth Comes First" mentality among the people and to prepare for a World Conservation Bank (WCB). The WCB was proposed during the Fourth World Wilderness Congress in 1987. This congress was attended by 2,000 people from 64 countries, including conservationists, ecologists, UN bureaucrats and world banking heavyweights David Rockefeller and Edmond de Rothchild.

The bank came to life in 1991 as the Global Environment Facility (GEF). The GEF is funded by members to finance projects in keeping with the goals of the conventions. Then U.S. Treasury Secretary James Baker stated the goals of projects financed by a "conservation bank" in 1987: "No longer will the World Bank carry (their) debt unsecured. The only assets we have to collateralize are federal lands and national parks [including Heritage sites]."

In essence, through the GEF, countries are placed in debt and their wilderness lands are held as collateral.

There are 851 such properties in 141 countries, comprising over one third of the earth’s land mass.

That's an excerpt from an article called "Nature Conservancy or nature conspiracy?" from the Idaho Observer, January 2008. The whole article can be read here - http://proliberty.com/observer/20080114.htm

So there's many things to look out for in my opinion and as usual they can start off looking quite innocent or unrelated to the big picture. The dots I have joined in starting this thread was my own personal observation from the last few days as it all just seemed to start clicking into place based on what I already knew was happening around the globe, especially in commonwealth countries and the US. The Kauri Dieback thing just seems too "prefect" for it not to be related in some way to what's going on. The "dieback" terminology used in that article just flicked on a little lightbulb for me. I really wonder how many similar scenarios are being acted out in other countries around the world at the moment or soon will be!

And lastly, I don't believe in coincidence anymore :wink:

[Crakka]

Oh dear, my apologies for the few typos above, it's late :oops: Obviously "prefect" should have been perfect. I'm too tired to correct the rest...

[Tranceformer]

Hi Crakka

Thanks for your very informative reply. I was indeed aware of the Illuminati/ One World Govt people wanting to get people off the land (rural areas) and into cities and towns were they are more easily controlled and are therefore more dependable on corporate resources for their own survival.

I must say, this Kauri Dieback disease does sound a bit "fishy" to me too. Why perfectly good trees that have lasted hundreds of years are now "suddenly" starting to die off. :?: :!: Although i have to confess to this just being a gut feeling or intuition (which usually doesn't let me down.) and not any scientific research. However, when/if the ARC or DOC release their reasoning for this alleged disease, it will be very interesting to read and digest!

Cheers

[Crakka]

[Niksta]

Wheeeee 'kids do the darndest thangs"

The green gospel is now being preached in kids movies and even on their Girl Scout patches. Three years ago, one environmental education group was working with 150 teachers nationwide - now they are training 1,000 and their curriculum is in close t to 10,000 schools.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/27/eveningnews/main4758489.shtml

Ahh the all seeing eye of cbs :twisted:

from the mighty

http://www.redicecreations.com/

[Crakka]

That article starts off almost identicle to one Alan Watt linked to last year. Seems they just regurgitate the same story to yet more people who'll swallow it. And just imagine how many fools will going "oh isn't that just so cute that those girls really care about the environment so much!".

This all just sends a shiver up my spine and gets me bloody frustrated at the same time that people can be so gullible as to believe anything they're told/sold by corporate-controlled media. It's people like this that sometimes just make me feel like tossing in the towell and saying "Yep, the human race IS doomed (because of all these stupid f*cks around me!)"...

[Niksta]

heh, yeps it is spooky, Alan Watt might be repetitive and "negative" but he is telling it like it is. It's him I accidentally stumbled upon in 05, which sent me down the path of investigation properly.

The issue of it affecting your own emotions is a major one which we as researchers, need to be savvy on. This is why we have to keep our mental / emotional bodies clean.

That's why I put my own saying in my sig - which amounts to 'seek ye first the equanimity and all things shall be added'

Which isn't the same as head in the sand, ya have to keep weeding out the truth and if possible share it.

Even if the hoomin race is *insert scottish accent* "Doomed Mr Manwaring" What's that got to do with here and now? :D

[Crakka]