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[smashdracs]

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The Government's flagship climate change legislation passed into law last night by 63 votes to 57.

The Climate Change (Emissions Trading and Renewable Preference) Bill has implications for every household and the potential to change the make-up of the labour force as environmental factors gain increasing importance in business.

It will eventually bring all sectors of the economy under a regime which sets limits on the amount of greenhouse gas they can emit. Those that breach their limit will have to buy credits from those that are below their cap.




I despair.
I really now do feel helpless and hopeless about how my country has been and is being run.
This current Labour Government has been out of control for the last few years and we the people have been powerless to stop the insanity.

This new law is a noose around the neck of "middle and lower class NZ"

I dont believe any of this "man made global warming bull$h*t" and even if it were true, GIVEN THAT NEW ZEALAND DOES NOT EVEN CREATE 1% OF THE WORLDS CARBON EMISSIONS, IT IS A SCIENTIFIC AND PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY FOR US TO DO ANYTHING WHATSOEVER ABOUT IT!!!!!

So our current dictators have signed into law a new and expensive tax that will burden average NZrs forever more to make us pay for something we cannot change, affect or do anything about and doesn't actually even exist.

Nice one Helen, I hope you rot in hell.

This is Helen Clarke making every Kiwi pay so she can leave a legacy of being the first world leader to force an entire country to save the world from global warming.
This is Helen Clarke bowing down to the NWO and making us once again guinea pigs of the world.
No doubt Helens masters will reward her soon after "muggins the taxpayer" boots her and her lesbian/feminazi/gay warrior gang of anti family communists out of government.

Out of respect for this forum I am keeping my post very toned down in spite of how I feel about this...

[A Butler]

Have to agree with everything you have said.Plus the fact that the impacts on farming will be considerable.Not only will it drop our average incomes to less than your average public servants holiday pay it will push us smaller family farmers out and there will be more corporate farmers(just like in the USA) Which for a long list of reasons is not desirable. And because kiwi farmers are price takers we can not pass the extra costs onto the consumer.We just bend over and take it,as usual. Funny how growing grass and feeding it to livestock is a natural carbon neutral cycle,and if you take the fact that wool locks up carbon for years and so does leather.Yet the climate change nazis are saying dont eat meat.(eat GM soy protein instead) F#@K wits ,anyway I'm starting to froth at the mouth but you get the picture. :evil:

[smashdracs]

Frothing mad here in Wellington brother.

I do not believe in using black magic for any reason but Helen and co are pushing my boundaries man....

[Deano]

Couldnt agree more, that law is going to damage our bank accounts some more, doesnt worry them though, theyve been in power so long now that they are all too rich to care if the plebs have to fork over a few more dollars, bunch of jerks.

Still in saying that I dont see the other crowd giving your average joe a fair go either!

[smashdracs]

I totally agree Deano.

I hate spouting "doom and gloom" but I see the alternative government as an even greater threat than the current bunch of lying treasonous sellouts.

[smashdracs]

I wish dearly I could suggest some solutions instead of yelling out about what is wrong!

[Crakka]

Agree, agree, agree with all of you... This new tax was foreseen ages ago and it seems whatever they want they get, regardless...

Now watch as the Peters affair turns into a total fiasco/circus that will allow National to crawl up out of their nothingness to snatch victory and speed up the NWO process with even more vigour! Soon after that see the whole GM issue hit the fan (albeit as quietly as possible I'll bet) as the Greens will no longer make up the Govt numbers and therefore have no real power to vote against it - Labour were always iffy on GM anyway. Things are certainly not looking good folks except in the short-term for those idiots with dollar signs in their eyes that will vote National!

[steve clougher]

this certainly is the mega blowout treason you're flagging

next step in the process, is they'll be telling farmers what to do with their land

who needs their lies, let them do some productive work

parasites

[smashdracs]

Steve, next step is telling us private land ownership is a threat to the planet and hand it over thankyou.....

[Crakka]

Just on the private land ownership thing and slightly related to this thread is something I was listening to on BBC World News on the way home.

Seems the whole coastline of Britain will change by 2050 and a map's already been drawn up showing what it'll look like! They were talking to a resident of an area where 26 (or very close from memory) properties were on land that had subsided or slipped away completely due to sea erosion. Then talking to someone else that said it was happening all up and down the East Coast especially which, looking at the pre-mentioned map, will be minus a lot of current coastline AND houses in 40 years.

The crunch for people affected is that all the Government will offer in the way of assistance is preference for applying for a council flat! It was said they have, get this, only 1 million pounds allocated per year to cover all coastline damage prevention & repair for the whole country so the budget for assistance for anybody affected is zero!

Peppered all the way thru the article was repeated mention of rising seas due to - yep you guessed it - global warming. Oh yay...

[smashdracs]

Global Warming is not responsible for coastal erosion.

I learnt when I was in school, care of the "then current knowledge of the fact"
that land falls apart because of humans chopping down trees and removing other such things that hold the land together.

This fact applies to all development.

Basic geography science is not applicable to local government decisions obviously when it comes to what gets built and doesn't.

Money has been the key factor.

"Muggins The Tax Payer" (substitute with rates payer if need be) has allowed developers to run "rough shod" over the place and tear it apart with no regard for the consequences.

Cry now folks.

[A Butler]

Yeah its pretty f#@ked up how global warming is blamed for recent coastal disasters,when the reality is that its just a continuation of erosion thats gone on forever.But the last 15 years of growth in coastal communities has just put more people in the firing line.The flooding and slips at Matata a few years back were a prime example.It was only recently built houses that suffered because the local maori didnt live near the disaster zone,they new better. On the farming issue is it true we import 70% of our food? if it is then the ets is going to encourage more imports from other countries who we all know are less efficient at producing food than we are/were.

[Crakka]

[A Butler]

So right crakka,if you can get hold of the book The Whole Soy Story by Kaayla T Daniel, it sure scares you the @$#&!!* that has been sneaked into our food.Theres almost no avoiding GM contaminated food if you are an average family with average income and eating habits.Ive started making my own herbal/ mineral capsules for me and the whanau to try and offset the damage from our corrupted food supply.As we are trying to improve our organic gardening skills.

[steve clougher]

Smashy, i think it is private land ownership that is a threat to the planet !!!

most people these days don't have much of a clue how to look after land, when they typically take on a bit of dirt without the wisdom and back-up of a village, or often even their parents

and that's only on the micro scale, where ownership is somewhat illusory, with rates and taxes giving the parasites a strong toehold

on the macro scale, such as can be seen in forestry, you have decisions made for the sake of increasing land holdings, and dollar per acre short-term yields, at horrendous cost to soil and society

and of course, lest we forget, the choicest pieces of land, planetwide, are now smeared over with crumbling and decaying tar and cement

someone once told me that in the early eighteen hundreds in the south island, the mostly Scottish settlers were in two minds whether to go with freehold or the clan system of land holding........i'd love to know if this were true

anyway, if it had happened, the modern neocons would have done a Rwanda or an Indonesia on them by now; it suits the elite's purpose to have power concentrated in a small, brutal, puppet elite

i'm not saying ownership of land is bad, but it needs to be balanced by a collective wisdom, and some land in common, in my opinion

the way things are headed, even the elite will soon have nowhere decent to live, along with the ordinary people, and most species except flies and cockroaches

[Crakka]

I look to common themes in science fiction at times like this Steve as it has a way of becoming science fact more often than not hehe! Hence it's easy to picture the elite living atop vast megalithic structures with their minions living beneath them in ever-decreasing levels of quality and desparity. The ground, our present world, will of course by then be a polluted wasteland populated by genetic mutants...

On a less pessimistic note, A Butler, yes that book is on my must-read list. I have watched numerous videos lately though about food & GE-related topics, several directly concerning Monsanto, and they really do make me quite mad. We have a few DVDs & (other) videos here I've yet to watch including "Sweet Misery - A Poisoned World (2004)" and "Sweet Remedy - The World Reacts To An Adulterated Food Supply (2006)" both about Aspartame, MSG, etc and also "Nutrition & Behaviour with Russell Blaylock MD (2006)" among others. I've previewed these (first 10 mins or so) and they all look really good.

A few websites worth checking out re food additives & wellness (probably preaching to the converted but there may be someone reading out there that'll find these helpful) -

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/index.html
http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/
http://www.sweetpoison.com/
http://www.blaylockreport.com/

[steve clougher]

forget the shopping lists with non this and non that

write a list

chooks

bees

dogs

horses

sailboat

gumboots

[A Butler]

Yeah crakka sounds like our DVD library is the same as yours.It seems that I am on a mission to school myself up on all of this after years of not taking any notice.All because I just happened to read an uncensored mag back in January this year.Funny how the more you read, it all just clicks with what your subconcious has been telling you since you were 5 (when you 1st start getting lied too by someone in authority!) Steve are there any bees left? I think thats one message that needs to get out to all ,the plight of the bees,it might sound silly but its the one thing that is worrying me at the moment.Probably more important than any other problem that the world is facing yet its all kept pretty quite.

[Crakka]

[steve clougher]

Bees can be bred back to the original size they used to be, before eighteenth century beekeepers decided a bigger bee would be more profitable

when the foundation/extracted comb supplied to them is not oversize, as all standard supplies are today, or when the bees are allowed to construct their comb from scratch, over a few generations, they revert to their original size, and their life cycle becomes shorter, giving them a much, much better chance to resist, for example, verroa mite

there's an excellent site called bushbees.com, haven't looked at it for a year or so, but there are others on the subject of organic beekeeping

it's not much trouble to build a hive or two along the lines suggested there, and contribute to the general stock of healthy bees

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good on ya, Crakka, letting me know i'm getting negative, i'll mend my ways, just see if i don't

two basics we should keep in mind, techniques used by powermaniacs, are to divide and rule, and to use a carrot as well as a stick

the enormous choice offered by supermarkets, televised sport, privacy and autonomy in the contexts of private transport and ownership of land, all these things are presently in the carrot category, as far as our rulers are concerned, and they keep us on the treadmill

especially televised sport, terrible insidious stuff......i'm looking forward to the wallabies getting a hiding tonight

[Crakka]

Hehe, good on YOU Steve :wink:

Bees are always an interesting topic of conversation. On the one hand there's the pure nature of it all and hoping that they, like us, can attain their true potential or "fit". On the other, there's the interpretation of the bee and its social structure as it relates to humankind used by the self-appointed elites to justify their philosophies & actions.

[steve clougher]

yeah, Crakka, i own a book of that kind by some character called Maeterlink

it's a lovely little leatherbound book, i can't bring myself to chuck it, but it's unbearably pompous, and two pages is as far as i've got, in twenty years

[Tranceformer]

Re Climate Change Politics i'd encourage people to see the excellent DVD
Global Warming or Global Governance to make sense of why all the global warming propaganda has been pushed on us all.

This could be followed up by the Global Warming Swindle doco too which one NZ TV station (Prime TV) aired but chose to edit!!!!!!!

It's simply another way for the elite illuminati to try and screw over the people and collect more money!

Whilst I am all for reducing pollution and looking after the environment, carbon credits, and taxes is not the way to go. (I wonder if they'd ever try and bring back the cow "fart-tax" ??!!! Remember that one? Hilarious!