Mysteries, Chemtrails, Aerosols :: Mysterious NZ

[smashdracs]

These are being plastered all over Wellington.

I don't support Labour and I DEFINITELY don't support National.

[Crakka]

[A Butler]

Have to agree with both of you ,but this present dictatorship is really getting up my nose.At the end of the day we only have a choice of these 2 packs of arseholes because any vote for a minor party is only a vote for labour or national with strings attached.So we really have no choice. What we need is a kiwi version of Ron Paul to start a new party.Something like the F@#k The Neocons Party or something like that. :shock:

[A Butler]

Hey smash,another thing.Doesnt that picture of Williamson look like the sort of person you might catch in your backyard scattering your garbage and trying to hump your dog? :lol:

[smashdracs]

[steve clougher]

so, we know the major parties have been effectively owned by offshore interests for thirty-odd years

we have to leave that mega-madness to work itself out

meanwhile, let's get to local council meetings and make sure local government is healthy and representative

otherwise, we get the government we deserve

[smashdracs]

Unfortunately here in Wellington we have much the same dictatorship problem in local govt as we do nationally.

[A Butler]

Steve, was that in the early 60's when we started borrowing from the world bank?

[steve clougher]

A.B.,i was only small in the early sixties; i think the floodgates opened in the early seventies, when Muldoon was first elected, and between the election result, and taking office, spent three days closeted with one of the Rockefellers, and immediately borrowed us into slavery

The Opal Files are perhaps an eye-opener into that process, which i've come to understand as more of a requirement to borrow, than an offer, otherwise, the head of state being "offered" the loan might consider the fates of Harold Holt and Norm Kirk, who both tried to keep control over our resources, limit monopolies, and retain our destinies in our own hands

Smashy, all over the english-speaking world, local councils are being amalgamated into bigger units, which seem to function in unhealthy secrecy, and seem to have become a tax-collecting entity, which provide far less in the way of services, than they demand in rates and levies

i just reckon that if we go to meetings, and require to examine their budgets and decisions, we have a better than even chance of keeping them honest, whereas on the national stage, i think it's got way past that point

on that note, my mum tells me Winston Peters is copping a fair barrage from the press........doesn't that mean he's really on our side????????

[Crakka]

[A Butler]

Steve , you are right with that "requirement to borrow" as I have read that in various books.I think the first loans were around 1963/64 (when I was a baby) but the books where I read that were borrowed ,so I need to do more research.But the same thing happened in alot of countries before and after that.Its like people always say about politicians ,that they "change" once they get into power,and the reason is that they soon find out that they dont have any real power.Thats why you see them being real serious about their pathetic little legislation changes because thats all the power they really have.They are just pawns.And we definitely dont need 120 of them.And if Allan Clark loses this election then its a given that she will end up with a job at the UN or some other related outfit. :roll:

[steve clougher]

AAAAWWWWW,Crakka, :wink: ,
i so much want to see Winston in a good light

my Ma says he's very blatantly looking after his own interests, and his portfolio as some sort of wandering foreign minstrel, certainly lends itself to the opportunity of being groomed and pampered by the elite

however, i still have hope for him

what happened to Wolfovitz??.....he was a waspish hawk in the corridors of currency control, and all of a sudden, he gets crucified on the grounds of giving his girlfriend a leg-up??? no, no, not believable

my theory is, he showed glimmerings of integrity, or conscience, or some other such abberration, giving the rightful rulers of our planet an allergic reaction

A.B., my Ma has said for years that Hell-en is angling for some such job..........she's been recently sign-posted as one of the world's most powerful women; well, if you cruise the history of the trilateral commission, or the two or three other such lush paddocks where compliant figureheads go to get out of the hurly-burly, it soon becomes clear, that then as now, she will be also no more than a puppet and a pawn, for people whose names and faces we will never know

so, i reckon, cultivate the local community, let the big fish eat up the other big fish, hopefully, and keep a good record of all this amazing story, that we're now uncovering with this marvellous internet, so that hopefully our grandchildren can guard against letting it happen again

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[Crakka]

Those with their heads up & eyes open see it clearly :wink:

Labour has done its part in the programme - with the Greens at its side GM was never going to be signed in but that was all part of the bluff. Their missions have all been accomplished. Now National will come in without the hinderance of the Greens and tick all the necessary boxes for the next phase of the plan. All the while the hypnotised masses keep watching TV, reading the newspapers, listening to talkback, eating their drugged food, drinking their drugged water and voting with their altered states of conciousness... It's a sad thing to watch happening before you but try telling most of them in an even subtle way. Just watch the blankness in the eyes as they have no comprehension of what you speak and continue their continuous babble of recycled views & "A or B" opinions.

[A Butler]

Thats saved me some typing as I totally agree with you guys. :)