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Disseminate
Joined: 18 Aug 2008
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Location: Test Tube
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:16 am Post Subject: How many of you are worried about invasive surveillance? |
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How many of you are worried about invasive surveillance?
And how many of you don't leave home without your cell phone - or feel 'naked' without it if you do?
If you have one that you take with you everywhere, you're carrying a transponder - tracking device.
Cellphones certainly can get people out of a pickle, but their excessive use is generally not necessary and not only is it a means to track your whereabouts, but it can be another means to absorb you in a useless time waster (texting all the time) to keep you amused and unaware. Some people like to get away from their personal dramas, yet moan about it when they make themselves easily contactable by the 'dramas' in their lives. |
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Crakka
Joined: 07 Aug 2008
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Location: The Wild West
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:59 am Post Subject: |
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Correct me if I'm wrong but can't anyone just buy a cheap mobile and a vodafone topup (no contract) with cash without having to record their personal details anywhere? I know the initial topup only gives you a certain amount that you can increase free by going online and recording details to get but you don't have to do this. I was given an extra phone recently without any account etc and will be looking to buy some credit for it soon so maybe I'll report back on that.
Anyways if this is the case then the tracking theory wouldn't work at all. I had a contract setup with my very first mobile a few years back but gave that away. Now but it's just topups for me ever since then. |
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Disseminate
Joined: 18 Aug 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:26 am Post Subject: |
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Did you get a free credit for registering the phone?
Even with disposables, they can stil track a strange signal - they just might not know who it's from and be more interested in tracing the call because they don't know. Does seem like a lot of extra work, but outfits like this seem to like extra work. |
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secondfield
Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:44 am Post Subject: |
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| Quote: | | Even with disposables, they can stil track a strange signal - they just might not know who it's from and be more interested in tracing the call because they don't know. Does seem like a lot of extra work, but outfits like this seem to like extra work. |
Not sure what you mean by that one disseminate ... how do you define a 'strange signal' via cellular transmission? which 'outfits' are you referring too? |
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Crakka
Joined: 07 Aug 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:53 pm Post Subject: |
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| Disseminate wrote: | | Even with disposables, they can stil track a strange signal - they just might not know who it's from and be more interested in tracing the call because they don't know. Does seem like a lot of extra work, but outfits like this seem to like extra work. |
Hmmm I hate to say it but that does seem a little close to paranoid speculation at this point in time. I think maybe the most obvious future situation would be that they just make it so that ALL phones can only be bought with a verification of personal details. You know, the old one-two shuffle - give us the choice now but then remove it as the technology gets more advanced as a trade-off for more features that we "think" we need. Yep, at least that opinion's based on something we already know is fact :wink: |
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steve clougher
Joined: 15 May 2007
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Location: north-east victoria
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| Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:52 am Post Subject: |
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well, bros, over the little ditch it has been the case for quite some time, that your mobile phone is locked up to your identity
also, you have to produce your drivers lisence to post a parcel overseas
don't take for granted , what freedoms you retain, they are precious |
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Crakka
Joined: 07 Aug 2008
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| Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:29 pm Post Subject: |
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Something privacy related and I certainly think this will be tightened up on...
I get given the odd cash cheque from time to time and take these to the cheque writer's bank to cash rather put in my account and pay a cheque fee. 9 times out of 10 they ask for a driver's licence or other similar form of ID. As a test I decided a few weeks back that I would no longer comply with this and instead offer the cheque writer's phone numbers for "them" to ring and check that I am indeed the correct recipient of the cheque. One would assume that this should be more than sufficient as proof that I am the proper recipient of the cheque - and that this is the actual reason they ask for ID. Unfortunately with both cash cheques I've received since I was not even asked for ID when I cashed them! Possibly due to my very amiable and open communicative way of dealing with cashiers lol! So I've still to test my approach but it'll be interesting to see how this progresses. |
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