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ruapaka



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Posts: 339

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:14 am    Post Subject: Earthquake safety tips  

Kia ora koutou

Yesterday I caught the latest advert promoting safety tips in the event of an earthquake. I am posting some info I came across a few years ago that I think everyone should know about.

When I first came across this info I got busy and passed it around - including a few local schools - still they teach the 'traditional' and accepted (albeit blindly) safety procedures. Today I have emailed the same info to the Earthquake Commission.

A MUST READ

Quote:
EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE "TRIANGLE OF LIFE",
Edited by Larry Linn for MAA Safety Committee brief on 4/13/04.
http://www.amerrescue.org/

My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake.

I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a member of many rescue teams from many countries. I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for simultaneous disasters.

In 1996 we made a film which proved my survival methodology to be correct.

The Turkish Federal Government, City of Istanbul, University of Istanbul Case Productions and ARTI cooperated to film this practical, scientific test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20 mannequins inside. Ten mannequins did "duck and cover," and ten mannequins I used in my "triangle of life" survival method. After the simulated earthquake collapse we crawled through the rubble and entered the building to film and document the results. The film, in which I practiced my survival techniques under directly observable, scientific conditions, relevant to building collapse, showed there would have been zero percent survival for those doing duck and cover. There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for people using my method of the "triangle of life." This film has been seen by millions of viewers on television in Turkey and the rest of Europe, and it was seen in the USA, Canada and Latin America on the TV program Real TV.

The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under their desk. Every child was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and I wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn't at the time know that the children were told to hide under something.

Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a space or void next to them. This space is what I call the "triangle of life". The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that the person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next time you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the "triangles" you see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see, in a collapsed building. They are everywhere.

TEN TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY

1. Most everyone who simply "ducks and covers" WHEN BUILDINGS
COLLAPSE are crushed to death. People who get under objects,
like desks or cars, are crushed.

2. Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal
position. You should too in an earthquake. It is a natural
safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void.
Get next to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky
object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to
it.

3. Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in
during an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the
force of the earthquake. If the wooden building does collapse,
large survival voids are created. Also, the wooden building
has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick buildings will
break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries
but less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.

4. If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs,
simply roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the
bed. Hotels can achieve a much greater survival rate in
earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on the back of the door
of every room telling occupants to lie down on the floor, next
to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.

5. If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by
getting out the door or window, then lie down and curl up in
the fetal position next to a sofa, or large chair.

6. Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse
is killed.

How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the doorway. In either case, you will be killed!

7. Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different "moment of
frequency" (they swing separately from the main part of the
building). The stairs and remainder of the building
continuously bump into each other until structural failure of
the stairs takes place. The people who get on stairs before
they fail are chopped up by the stair treads - horribly
mutilated. Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away
from the stairs. The stairs are a likely part of the building
to be damaged. Even if the stairs are not collapsed by the
earthquake, they may collapse later when overloaded by fleeing
people. They should always be checked for safety, even when
the rest of the building is not damaged.

8. Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If
Possible - It is much better to be near the outside of the
building rather than the interior. The farther inside you are
from the outside perimeter of the building the greater the
probability that your escape route will be blocked;

9. People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road
above falls in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which
is exactly what happened with the slabs between the decks of
the Nimitz Freeway. The victims of the San Francisco
earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were all
killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and
sitting or lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would
have survived if they had been able to get out of their cars
and sit or lie next to them. All the crushed cars had voids 3
feet high next to them, except for the cars that had columns
fall directly across them.

10. I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper
offices and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper
does not compact. Large voids are found surrounding stacks of
paper.


Here is a link to more info re 'The Triangle of Life' - including video and PP presentations.

http://www.amerrescue.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/amerrescue/sitesearch.cgi
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ruapaka



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Posts: 339

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:36 pm    Post Subject:  

.... and wouldn't you know it ....

here's my what I emailed to the Earthquake Commission

Quote:
Yesterday I caught the new advertisement telling us what we should do in the event of an earthquake - the usual stuff - just like we have been taught since childhood.

I am writing to pass on some information I came across a few years ago (ref attached doc).

Doug Copp presents tips for earthquake safety - based on extensive experience and logic - but conflict with what we are being taught. I find it hard to believe the govts of the world do not have access to this information - if they do then why has this information not been widely promoted. Can you please enlighten me as to why we are not using this information with regard to saving lives - especially our children in their classrooms.


Here is the response I got ...

Quote:
Thank you for your email. In regards to the discussion generated by Doug Copp's email, the Ministry of Civil Defence and Emergency Management asked the New Zealand Society for Earthquake Engineering to examine the current advice on what to do in an earthquake. They did so and produced a report which essentially said that the advice remains the same. I suggest you have a look at the press release on the society's website (http://www.nzsee.org.nz/PUBS/eqinstructions.shtml) - it should answer any questions you have.


(I did not received a Doug Copp email - I found the info in my first post when I was scouting for earthquake info some years ago.)

I checked the link ..... a press release (no date) ... here is how it begins

Quote:
Drop, Cover and Hold still the best advice

When the shaking starts, the best advice is still to Drop, Cover and Hold.

The advice from civil defence and The NZ Society for Earthquake Engineering comes in response to a widely circulated email by a self-professed rescue expert. Information in the email contradicts current advice on what to do in an earthquake. Although the email source has been discredited in the US, where it originated, the emails have been virulent enough to create some public concern both in the US and in New Zealand.


.. here is the link ...
http://www.nzsee.org.nz/PUBS/eqinstructions.shtml

(a long sigh)

... you decide ...

I know where I will take cover, thanks to Doug Copp.

??... bad advice may conveniently contribute to population control ...??
??... fiscal influence - new information publication costs ...??
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 969
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:59 pm    Post Subject:  

I'm with Doug Copp too

Thanks, ruapaka

common sense, once it's pointed out
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 969
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:11 pm    Post Subject:  

I just wrote to that mob, here is the text


Hi, I'm sending you this extract again, so that you may read it again

Common sense dictates that the principles contained herein will be fully valid, in a building of large size and heavy construction, especially concrete slab construction

In a small single story wooden schoolhouse, the values promoted on your website will be fully operative

In buildings between these sizes, individual planning should apply, and each building should be assessed individually

This is just common sense, please give it your careful attention

Yours faithfully,
Steve Clougher

A MUST READ
Quote:
EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE "TRIANGLE OF LIFE",
etc., etc., etc.,
etc.,etc.,etc.
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ruapaka



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Posts: 339

Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:01 am    Post Subject:  

I wrote ...

Quote:
Here is a link to more info re 'The Triangle of Life' - including video and PP presentations.

http://www.amerrescue.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/amerrescue/sitesearch.cgi


... doh! ... I was rushing and brain got left behind ... I did a site search of 'Triangle of Life' so you need to enter it to get the page I was passing on ... OR ... try this link ...


http://www.amerrescue.org/triangleoflife.htm

Here is what the page starts with - interesting - a lot more to this subject than I was aware of ...

Quote:
It has come to ARTI's attention that various e-mail messages are circulating which attempt to describe and advocate the Triangle of Life survival method. ARTI is happy to encourage the circulation of information about the Triangle of Life and the characterization of the method is substantially correct in the messages. However, the best source of information about the Triangle of Life is this website, and there are two problems with the messages that are being circulated. First, the messages indicate that ARTI Chief Doug Copp is their author, and he is not. Doug was not consulted about the messages and does not know their orgin or author. In addition, the messages indicate that Doug is or has been a member of three international organizations namely UNICEF, ONU and OEA. In fact, Doug is not a member of any of these organizations, although he has worked cooperatively with them in the past and supports their efforts. ARTI asks that the author of these messages contact Doug Copp to pursue further cooperation or, in the alternative, that the messages not be written so as to imply ARTI or Doug Copp is the author and that they not characterize ARTI or Doug Copp's background or methodology, but rather rely on direct quotations from and links to this website.

Sincerely

Andrew Miller, of Karasik and Associates LLC, New York, New York, USA and Zurich, Switzerland

(representing Doug Copp and ARTI in our $131 million dollar defammation lawsuit, filed on our behalf in the Supreme Court of New York against those who would destroy our life saving work.)

*****

A personal note from doug copp: I am very pleased that emails concerning the triangle of life have circulated to tens of millions of people, throughout the world. My only request is that the authors of these emails contact me and allow me to edit the email for accuracy before they circulate them, around the world.

ARTI is fighting against dark and evil forces. We are very concerned that these evil people will take advantage of any inaccuracy to cause chaos and death.

God Bless and Best Wishes

doug copp/ ARTI



ALAS ... I have been trying some of the sites links to presentations/videos/documents and not much luck - not found/unavailable messages .. probably to do with the law suit mentioned.

(another long sigh) ... :(
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