Mysteries, Chemtrails, Aerosols :: Mysterious NZ

[John Anderson]

Now I would welcome a concerted world wide sincere effort to reduce all types of pollution, but I strongly suspect that with the 'Global Warming' movement, that's not what we're getting - nor what is intended. And call me old fashioned, but I am not a believer in 'the ends justifying the means', as in lying in order to 'prove' a point. Some of the somewhat dodgy 'scientific' information, opinion and statistics that is 'reorganised' and disseminated to the public as fact, in order to support the Anthropomorphic Global Warming view, seems to fit that category...

Take these two articles for instance.

A prediction that the "North Pole may be ice-free for first time this summer
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/06/080620-north-pole.html

And this similar one, an expert opinion that Arctic polar cap may disappear this summer, "The shrinking of the Arctic ice cap has been astonishing...":
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/01/content_7696460.htm

Then compare those with "Arctic ice refuses to melt as ordered"
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/15/goddard_arctic_ice_mystery/

Take your pick on what to believe, they all can't be right.

It takes a lot of 'giving of the self' in the form of expended time and persistence in order to attain a balanced view, but that is at least achievable - perhaps arriving at 'the truth' just isn't.

[steve clougher]

agreed , John, the global warming propaganda is certainly a lie, and an arbitrary construct, designed by think-tank pompleturds

it is being used for many nefarious purposes

the carbon-credits scheme, is just another commodity conjured out of nowhere, on the back of "global warming"

the various climate control experiments use it to hide behind

water is becoming commodified, owned and bought and sold......climate change gets a mention in the credits

if , and only if, the glaciers are retreating, this is not due to rise in temperature, but to decreased precipitation

in the immortal words of Tom T Hall,

"We've got too many do-gooders, and not enough hard-working persons"

or words to that effect

[Deano]

Yeah I read somewhere that the other planets in our solar system are also going through 'global warming' type changes. How does that figure if theres no large scale polluting industry in their environments?

[steve clougher]

maybe aliens fart a lot?

[A Butler]

Man made Climate Change is the justification to tax us into submission,if you read up about what HAARP is capable of doing then its only a few men making the climate change and they definitely wont be the ones paying. :cry:

[steve clougher]

sounds about right

what is the best link you have on HAARP, please, A.Butler?

[Crakka]

I guess another thought that comes to mind about the "removal" of ice at the north & south poles would be that the underground resources that would then become much more accessible. These are large tracts of land that (maybe due to their unique positions or polarity) are supposedly very rich in certain mineral resources. The Americans have a had a pretty big base at Antarctica for a long time doing all kinds of experiments - one would rightly speculate that we really only know what a fraction of their work has been about. The fact that the earth rotates on these axis points (think magneto?) is probably more relevant to the topics discussed above though...

[steve clougher]

that's an interesting thought, Crakka

what do you think of the idea that the elites are taking water to Mars, where they can relax in their yachts with no peasants to bother with?

[Crakka]

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[A Butler]

Sorry Steve,not much use in the links department, am still a computer novice and a bit busy on the farm at the moment.Just watched a DVD by Dr Nick Begich re HAARP very interesting,just need to get hold of his books and read up on it.