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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 969
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:08 pm    Post Subject: delicious and nutritious kefir  

this link gives contact details for people who are willing to supply kefir grains, (and other related or unrelated esoteric food and health products)

kefir grains, if you have never had them, look like frogs' eggs, and they convert milk to THE most delicious and vitalising "yoghurt" drink

http://www.rejoiceinlife.com/kefir/kefirlist.php

there are addresses near you ! most likely

i had a kefir culture that went for years, until one tragic night, the cat fished it all out and et it, and i haven't been able to get it again, till i was given this website last night
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magical1



Joined: 22 Nov 2007
Posts: 99
Location: Wellington

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:45 am    Post Subject:  

I've been wanting to make Kefir for ages so thanks for this Steve...
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 969
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:36 pm    Post Subject:  

yes, i'll be rapt to get it back too, looks like we might have to give up tofu

when one door closes..................

one food i'll never ever eat is fish-farm salmon........worked on a salmon farm in southern tasmania for a year and a half..........they don't breed females with males...........they breed from females with females that have been fed testosterone for three weeks............they experiment with triploids, and get a lot of mis-shapen fish, with twisted spines, underslung jaws etc

sorry, anyone who's just had salmon for lunch

there's no labeling of the product as GM either
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magical1



Joined: 22 Nov 2007
Posts: 99
Location: Wellington

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:30 pm    Post Subject:  

As a bodybuilder Salmon is a staple... So is chicken and beef and eggs! This year leading up to competition I will only be eating organic... Yes I know what goes on now Steve... What a shame I didn't for three years competing and only eating this rubbish. I payed with nervous system disorders ie Bells Palsy, carpel tunnel.
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 969
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:26 pm    Post Subject:  

go for wild salmon, maggi-1

when i lived in southern tas, such a wonderful place, there used to be regular escapes of salmon from the fish-farm cages

this was normally occasioned by sabotage, seal attack, or farm worker incompetence (read drunkenness) , not necessarily in that order

the seals, monsters, about 300 kilos, were routinely trapped and transported to the opposite end of tasmania by special transport units, at a cost of high hundreds to the farm, in brand new 4WDs and purpose-built trailers, run by the govt dept of the day, who change their name every few months (dept of invisibility and spuriousness at present......?)

the quickest turn-around i saw, for a seal to swim from the Tamar River in the north of Tas, back to the south end was three days............the whole exercise just gave them an appetite.........phenomenal athletes

once i was working on a group of cages furthest out of the huon river, almost in open ocean, and we had not seen a seal in three weeks

the people furthest up the river, had been getting seal harrassment, and wanted the traps, which had been lying at our end

so one day, the old boat which served as a tug, came and took the two traps away, and when they were a hundred yards away, and the operators were looking away, in the direction they were heading, a seal , about maximum size, surfaced near my boat........(hadn't seen one for three weeks at least)

he laid on his back, and clapped his front flippers together

i swear this is true, there were no other witnesses, but this really happened

anyway, the escapee salmon, after a few months, (providing they aren't triploids) lose the soft and horrid fat the cage fish get, and become lean and healthy, and very good eating

they don't know how to forage, you never find food in their gut

the dolphins used to chase them all the way up Lune River

once, i was paddling a kayak, and a pod of half a dozen dolphins caught up with me, in this glassy-calm river

reversal of roles

usually, dolphins like to surf on the free energy of boats' bow-waves

in this instance, the surfacing of four or five dolphins at a time, gave my kayak a boost
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psychosis Agent



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
Posts: 133
Location: Christchurch

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:37 am    Post Subject:  

Wow crazy stuff Steve

I have had many dolphin experiences but never something as crazy as your seal encounter thats madness :P

that Kefir is great freaking stuff ay got a great taste to it too i recon i am just trying to remember the name of another GM, Dairy, Wheat, Gluten free stuff will ask him next time i see him and hopefully remember to and then remember to post it again lol

Bless up
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 969
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:42 am    Post Subject:  

be interested to hear your dolphin experiences, p-A

they find human adults boring, i think

had some fun one day with three people and a dog in a dinghy........small pod of dolphins charging at the boat and doing tight circles around us, the dog was going totally bananas, i think that was the big attraction
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psychosis Agent



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
Posts: 133
Location: Christchurch

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:33 pm    Post Subject:  

i remember hearing about some dolphins saving some people who were in the water with a sinking boat from sharks was on the news maybe 2 years ago'ish

all my experiences are not very exiting just cruzing through the water in the wake of the bow and coming right up to the stern of the boat as if to say hello lol

I remember my stepdad telling me when he was younger a dolphin had come right up to his boat and jumped up onto it while he was fishing
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steve clougher



Joined: 15 May 2007
Posts: 969
Location: north-east victoria

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:18 pm    Post Subject:  

there was a story going round, about a fisherman from Hawkes Bay, who tried to telepathise with dolphins

he thought of a place, and held the thought, and by his account, the dolphins streamed off in the direction of that place

there are many stories, going back to ancient Greek days, of dolphins helping people in trouble

there were no accounts of dolphins ever hurting anyone, that i've heard of, until recently some guy was killed by one, near the mouth of the Amazon, as i heard it............toxins in the water?........retaliation for some atrocity?

even orcas have a clean slate, as far as i know, for not hurting humans

(one out of a pod, sunk a yacht by ramming it, broke its neck and died, the people survived after a long stint in their liferaft)

it's not because they couldn't do it if they wished........they take on polar bears regularly

why do they have such respect and tolerance for us?

certainly a mystery !
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secondfield



Joined: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 377

Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:59 pm    Post Subject:  

I remember seeing on the news a local dolphin loving woman went out to sea last year to pay them a visit. She was sitting on the bow of the boat and one of them leapt out of the water and decided to give her a cuddle, crushing her pelvis and breaking her ribs / legs...

Poor lass, she still is quite fond of them... her house is obsessively filled with sculptures, paintings tea towels etc emblazoned with them. Reminds me a bit of the grizzly man, who ended up being eaten by those wild creatures. Cuddly looking though.

There was an old maori fullah in Gisborne (Wainui / Makarori) way back in the day, who used to wade out in the ocean and hand feed hammerhead sharks every afternoon.
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