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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:32 pm Post Subject: Mobile Phones one day embedded in human bodies?
Here's a creepy little story from Stuff about Martin Cooper, the guy who invented mobile phones. A few choice quotes:
Stuff quoting Martin Cooper wrote:
..."Cooper said he was so enthused after his first mobile call that he liked to joke that phone numbers would become so important that "when you were born you would get a phone number and if you didn't answer it you would die."
"The idea is that the phone number becomes part of you," said Cooper, who is also waiting for the day when he merely thinks about calling a particular person and the phone will automatically dial the number.
In about 15 to 20 years, he expects people to have embedded wireless devices in their bodies to help diagnose and cure illness.
"Wouldn't it be wonderful to have these devices built into you and powered by your body?"
Cooper thinks that people's 'conservatism' is what stops his vision from really taking hold....
Stuff quoting Martin Cooper wrote:
Now chief executive of ArrayComm, a wireless software firm he started in 1992, Cooper concedes that there are obstacles in the way of his vision for wireless to be embedded in humans.
"It's not really the technology, it's the people. People are really conservative," said Cooper.
Wouldn't it be neat to have phone company adverts mainfest directly inside your head, served instantly through a mobile device embedded in and powered by your body? Wouldn't it be neat to have that mobile device deliver a series of electic shocks to your brain if you didn't pay your phone bill by the due date? Wouldn't it be neat if the phone called the cops every time you had a subversive thought?
Yeah that guy talks like you will want those intrusions in your body. Marketing rule number one is always sell the benefits first, the finer detail in small print please!
Martins seems a unfettered humanist compared to Ray Kurzweil ......
The Illuminist establishment heap accolades onto this chap.
Looking at recent photos of him Im not sure if he's even human any more...... some of those people with bung :shock: eyes and waxy type features I suspect to possibly be clones/implantees/mind controlled. Or the victims of too much media exposure. Heaps of celeb's seem to succumb to this look.... anyway,
Quote:
Kurzweil is an inventor and engineer, recipient of 12 honorary doctorates, the Lemelson-MIT Prize and the National Medal of Technology. He was the principal developer of the first omni-font optical character recognition, the first print-to-speech reading machine for the blind, the first CCD flat-bed scanner, the first text-to-speech synthesizer, and more.
But in his speech at the Army Science Conference in Orlando, “Warfighting in the Early 21st Century,” Kurzweil was so relentlessly optimistic about the unfettered acceleration of technological progress, it makes me wonder if he's nuts.
Essentially, Kurzweil's point was that technology is increasing our rate of invention. Change is happening faster and faster, and there's no end in sight. Progress is like a snowball rolling down a hill, getting bigger and faster every moment.
But where Kurzweil starts to lose me is when he projects where this growth is going. He's the author of a compelling recent book, “The Singularity is Near,” which argues that we're mere decades away from essentially becoming a new species of animal.
By the year 2029, says Kurzweil, $1000 will buy you computation power equivalent to 1,000 times that of the human brain. We'll have reverse engineered the human brain, entirely understanding how it works. Computers will have passed the Turing test. And humans will begin to combine with non-biological intelligence –in other words, we'll be fusing with artificial intelligence, becoming both man and machine.
His books are truly insane or visionary, but frightning either way. Essentially we are biological radio's / processor units (he reckons) that can be 'souped up' with liberal applications of nano technology and suchlike.
And the world gets wierder..... Im heading for the hills soon. :wink:
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:24 pm Post Subject:
just another of the so called "advantages" of such destructive devices of fascism, tyranny and global enslavement
you hear that from November onwards anyone entering England who is not a member of the European union must undergo a retina scan and full bio metrics screening and then is made to get a bio-metrics id card that contains an RFID tag
7 more months before i refuse to go to Europe now thats for sure
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:56 am Post Subject:
i have direct experienceof this trend........a couple of weeks ago, i got a tug from a police car , just outside a small town , Wangaratta, where i had been scavenging some glorious pieces of redgum, and the tailgate of my trailer was laid flat, and the lisence plate, thereby, not visible
the young policeman got me to do the breath-test, (passed with flying colours), and was somewhat astonished to find the trailer registered
he said i could not drive without displaying a number plate to the rear, a law passed, and required to be rigidly enforced, to serve the interests of the owners of electroic toll-collection agencies, on privately owned freeways
now, Wangaratta is 300 km. from the nearest toll road, but i tactfully refrained from mentioning that fact
i pulled the number plate off the car, and slung it at the rear of the trailer, and honour was preserved
when he told me it was normally three demerit points and 150 bucks, i kept a very straight face and said, "that's very serious !".......he was kind, and let me off with a warning
then i drove home 15 km. on a quiet road, and my makeshift numberplate was seen by absolutely noone, except a couple of passing surveillance satellites, and a bunyip with a periscope
Well there is the vagus nerve stimulator that is implanted in people with severe epilepsy. I don't believe it's a procedure done in New Zealand yet. It can stop a seizure about to begin.
However, as for other implantables like wireless telecommunications devices, they're just about there now - bluetooth (stick it in your ear). Who really wants voices in their head that can begin talking at any moment?
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:57 am Post Subject:
that's a serious question, disseminate, and one that some friends of mine have been saying for some years, is indicative of a real change in our atmosphere........whether it's due to radio frequency overload, or a focused campaign, people who hear voices are saying that there seems to be a campaign of a new and different , and extremely negative description
Its called our thought patterns, maybe we could blame the non PC ones we have (to put it mildly) on invasive eletro tech??
I still believe we can combat any invasive technology with our own mind, if that is its target. The constantly occuring 'internal dialouge' (ie the chatter and noise of our own mind) can be controlled. Any intrusions in the way of fearful thinking patterns, paranoia, anxiousness etc which MAY be introduced artificially (subliminally electronically or via the media, personal contacts etc) could be combatted by a soundly functioning mind and an aware person.
Diversify your hobbies and interests is one simple method...
Raises some interesting legal implications for the future though..
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Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:52 am Post Subject:
way cool post, secondfield, i would add, chuck out the tv
that big post of yours about scientists in Switzerland trying to storm the gates of heaven with their boots on, brought up exactly the point you just raised, and which was elegantly expressed in the quote from the gospel of Judas.........
the human being, in a balanced state, is easily superior to their multi-trillion-dollar wanker's cod-piece
I recall reading about mind control a few years back. (I think it was a Nexus article.) I was amazed and frightened by what scientist had discovered and tested re the 'language' of the mind.
Goes something like ....
We think in words / language ... no matter what language - English, French, Russian, Maori - words produce the very same frequency. The word 'apple' produces the same frequency in the brain - in any language. The frequency can be 'put' in the brain by outside sources. The article went on to describe how the US military had used this on pilots and gave an example of a pilot receiving instructions, the pilot's brain being read to see if instructions were correctly received, then giving the pilot alternate instructions via frequency input through his headset from remote location/base.
There could be huge benefits or frightening consequences - all depending on 'intentions'.
What if ..... mass populations were targeted - could we combat the effect and control our own minds? Meanwhile those who 'own' this science will be very busy perfecting its effects, I'm sure.
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:51 am Post Subject:
And here's the most obvious thing with all this (conspiracy, for want of a better term) stuff. We KNOW from evidence supplied from all kinds of sources that tests of all kinds have been going for ages all over the place at all kinds of levels. The evidence is clear. It's what you do with the evidence - if you trust that the tester's (the holders of the knowledge) intentions "can't possibly be bad" you are thinking within the "normal" range, but if you have any doubt about their trustworthiness or intentions you are immediately branded a conspiracy "theorist" and sidelined as a nutjob by the norm in society! FACT! To further suggest that the "norm" itself is "created" to ensure this happens is to just about sign yourself into a psychiatric institution or at the very least secure your eligibility for anti-depressant medication!
But again a dot joining exercise can lead you to some pretty wild or obvious(?) conclusions. Many have speculated as we know that the "dumbing down" of society with the aid of agents like fluoride, aspartame & MSG is just the prelude to some much more invasive widespread mind control. If you know anything about how these agents work in the brain then you know they have massive effects on the receptors. If you haven't already, please watch "Sweet Misery" & "Sweet Remedy" for an introduction to the subject. If as ruapaka says we could "combat the effect and control our own minds" then this might add credence to speculation that these agents are being mass broadcast in our water & just about every processed food to breakdown any chance we have of combatting more invasive widespread mind control.
Further speculation - You can then even start to understand why many anti-NWO protagonists say wholeheartedly that all the extreme security & tracking measures being put in place will when the time is right ACTUALLY just be used to try and control the rebellious few stragglers that refuse to eat their rotten poison & conform due to their clear(er) & stronger individual minds.
When you look at it all together it's certainly food for thought...
Thats interesting Ruapaka, in essence the words produce the same 'feeling' in everyone regardless of the language.
If what was refrenced in the nexus article is correct then that 'feeling' is then translated into a complex electrical waveform to be transmitted directly to the recipeints nervous/neurological system. I have never thought about it in those terms but every word we read and hear must trigger a 'feeling' or emotional reaction, conjuring up assciated imagery and visulisation in our mind. After all, our eyes are just very complex radio's that detect and receive transmitted light frequencies (from a very narrow band of the electromag spectrum), and de-modulate them and project them into a comprehensible visual representation of reality (all in our biological radio - the brain).
If they can acheive this via technology then this leaves the door wide open for (when the the tech gets fast and complex enough) to transmit and couple a virtual reality straight into our neurological data transfer and processing system (brain)! Our nervous system is a relatively slow beast, electrical signals to control our muscles travel at a mere 320km/hr. We cannot dismiss this possibility.
If the physicists are correct, and our reality is comprised of masses of wave packets colliding in the binding force of magnetisim (creating matter - read the electric universe), and all indications are they are on the right track then.... So following the thread to its fullest extent we can forget about common 'mind control' via electromagnetisim it seems full blown reality engineering may just be around the corner!
Or the very reason this mind control operation (media, politics, finance, war, propoganda, EM subliminals etc) is in full swing is to keep us bound to regular (primal emotive drive) thought patterns, hence keeping us tied into the matrix.
Anyone who has seriously utilised psycoactive substances (LSD, psilosybin, DMT etc) can attest to the 'opening up' of the senses, enabling things not normally percieved by us to be bought into our reality. Visulisations of the 'cosmic web' is one frequently occuring theme when dealing with these substances.
After all, with the space between atoms and electrons thats where we may be living right now. The only home weve ever known. Makes me feel like getting a feed of pipi's right now before someone makes me forget what they are.. :lol:
I gotta lay off those david icke books and diversify my hobbies .. :wink:
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:04 pm Post Subject:
Hmmm looks like we posted simultaneously! I was thinking similar thoughts while typing but didn't want to spam up my post by adding even more stuff!
secondfield wrote:
I gotta lay off those david icke books and diversify my hobbies .. :wink:
Again, very interesting. Synchronicity? I typed "David Icke" in reference to anti-NWO protagonists but then removed the individual name reference due to it being shared sentiment. I'm currently just about to start reading Michael Talbot's "The Holographic Universe" and am looking at it right now in front of me on the desk :shock:
Gotta stop popping in and checking this forum every time I stop for a work break :lol:
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:43 pm Post Subject:
the first victory in mind control, is to get people to believe their minds can be controlled
if you don't believe their various techno-invasions can effect you, or that at any rate, you can resist them effectively, i personally don't believe the crato-crats can get traction
one of the hallmarks of the neocon disinfo campaign, which has been well noted on this site before, is to lead you to believe you are up against overwhelming technology/supervision/weoponry etc.
stop and ask, how many rentacops would be needed to process all the info available to big brother from our mobile phones?
what they can do, is store huge mountains of information, and select what they want to focus on, mainly threats to their continued position of parasitic dominance
what is effective, is when people are divided, and think they're the only one big brother wants to spy on
this is why i think a lot of the propaganda is lies, and if not, then its importance is exxaggerated out of all proportion
on the other hand, there's a lot of secret stuff out there, in the wrong hands, that's certainly true
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:53 pm Post Subject:
In "The Reality Of The Virtual", Slavoj Žižek makes a good point about authority only being effective if it is maintained as virtual ie. a threat. If the threat is taken further and acted out as actual violence then the authority is diminished as it can appear to become just a parody of itself.
I believe we see this every time the riot squad turns up to a student party and goes through it's little routines of trying to physically control everything. They gain nothing but lose all respect. I remember being at parties 20yrs ago when after the Springbok Tour they would turn up at just about any loud gathering to flex their muscle and would immediately receive a hail of bottles & abuse. The resulting physical abuse of anyone, innocent bystanders et al, that got in their way just strengthened people's resolve about what a complete joke it was...
Another thought though - when it comes to WOMD we might not see the funny side of a threat taken to the next level...
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:18 pm Post Subject:
ah, those were the days, the springbok tour, arrrr arrrr yeah, i have a few memories from the Hamilton match........never come between a man and his rugby.......i was hitching through Hamilton that day, nothing to do with the protest, but had long hair.........nearly got lynched
yeah, the police in those days didn't carry heavy weapons, and didn't turn up by the busload looking like darth vader in his halloween tweeds
