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[smashdracs]

I have it from a reliable source that Steve Crow is no longer affiliated with, nor finances Uncensored Magazine.

From what I have heard, he started it merely to give himself a platform to express his views on the porn industry and has no genuine interest in the content or direction of the magazine otherwise.

I have been told that the editorial team of the magazine is no longer paid by him and are actually running the magazine themselves unpaid at present.

I respect Jon Eissen and his works, and Uncensored Magazine is a great publication.
I sincerely hope it survives without that "rat" (you know who) and doesnt fade away.

I will endevour to confirm what Ive posted here in the next few days, it is only hearsay at present but I believe it is true.

Such a great magazine doesnt need such a lowlife behind it IMHO :!:

[LukeZen]

Hell I was wondering about that when I saw he didn't have his face plastered in the last issue.

[Melody Anderson]

Same, LukeZen. We bought the last issue only recently. And it isn't as thick as the first issue. Was Mikey Havoc's involvement just for a bit of an initial publicity boost also? He doesn't appear to be writing his opinion columns either...

I would like to see them do some original work though. Instead of just reprinting stuff from alternative web sites.

[satanzhand]

The lack of orginal research maybe the down fall of the magazine I think. Well thats at least why I havent purchased a copy so far.

Steve Crow wasn't a good look for the mag either, I feel.

[Freedom]

Uncensored magazine drags its content mostly from Rense.com and a few other conspiracy sites, it is a great read but really is just packaging free info already available on the web, some of the editorials are good but if these guys were genuine they would make their publication available for free on the web, its a hassel to type the long urls into the adress bar, unsensored.co.nz doesn't contain the links in the mag. They should dump the magazine and save some trees, build up the website.

[Crakka]

Was just going to post something about Uncensored but thought I'd do a quick look around first and found this thread.

I realise it's been around but never really seen it on the shelf - not a huge magazine fan anymore really. However, I saw a copy for the first time yesterday evening right on the front stand of a supermarket checkout. First thing I noticed was the pretty expensive price of $9.90. Well that kind of sour note with me right from the start and I just really quickly flicked through before chucking it back on the shelf. I also couldn't help thinking that the full-colour glossy and well-packaged presentation was a bit extravagant.

Just thought to myself this seemed like a real cash-in and then when I did a quick check for info online and realised Steve Crow had set it up initially the penny dropped. Whether he's still involved or not I just can't help thinking that the whole thing's still just a cash-in on the movement at the moment. A quick peruse of the website certainly looks like it's just a net-casting exercise of links and regurgitated news from the scene.

Just my opinion as it certainly didn't "feel" right to me...

[secondfield]

No, no ... Steve Crow has no connection with the magazine anymore. He was the only one the ed could get to front funds to finance the initial printingst. I cant imagine a govt grant being proffered for a mag like this. As soon as hes had his say (one article on censorship) he basically buggered off and left the the team to it.
I personally know Jonathon Eisen (editor) and can attest to his sincerity and hard work at putting the mag together,.
It has been in circulation for a couple of years now, and is a hell of a good read!. Go buyt it.
Jonathon is also an author, if you ever get the oppourtunity, seek out an acquire his book 'suppressed inventions and other discoveries'. It is a hallmark in its field.

[steve clougher]

just had a flick through Uncensored's website

it looks pretty useful to me

lots of links, maybe a bit sensational

i guess the questions are

does it verify its info?

how does it react to input from the great unwashed? (speaking for myself, of course)

[secondfield]

Uncensored has a readers letters section which is fairly well populated. Their ongoing 911 truth articles hit the nail on the head. There is alot of useful information in there, health tips etc. It is styilised to be an 'eye grabber' , because our reptillian cortex likes shiny glossy flash looking things.

[Freedom]

I'll keep buying it if only to lend support to independent press

[Deano]

[Disseminate]

[secondfield]

I dunno, but one thing i know ... we must be prepared to actually think for ourselves and not turn the dissemination of information into a polarized mind f**k consisting of true/false, right /wrong, up/ down, left /right, off/on etc.

There are many well meaning people out there who are doing there 'little' bit to help wake us all up. There are also alot of people who soley (with or without being aware of it) propogate information to make us fearful as well...

Here on the fringe are all sorts of 'entities'...

Ive seen far worse examples of 'cut n paste' news editing than uncensored mag...


Saying they need to do this and that while dissmising the obvious intent of the magazine seems slightly snobbish. At least someone has the gut's here to publish something like this. He's not even a kiwi (christ! you are saying it all could be disinfo!!! CIA anyone?? haha! - you fools!)

... We readily critisize and propogate a bit of fear here and there, but rarely sincerely embrace.... Jonathon Eisen wrote the book 'suppressed inventions and other discoveries'. Alot of regular 'joe's' have a copy. It is eminently readable and damn good value. Even appeared in whitcoulls. Alot of copies were sold and it sparked a plethora of discussion. Good value. Mates of mine who are not into this 'conspiricy' (I detest that word) stuff, always positively remark on that book after they lend it.

And as I said to get the 'majority' of the media manipulated masses to accept it the presentation has to be so. Bored housewives, students seeking something other than rolling stone, truck drivers who may want a bit of glossy without the porn(?!) ...

Nexus seems a bit stale, but I still buy every copy. Dunno what a lack of origonal material means. I dont think anyone has had a truly origonal thought for a hundred years or so... our reality has been programmed for us...

Like anything these days its about utilising your intuition as a third eye to find the relvance of 'information' floating in your personal bubble, how it ties into the collective and how to employ that information to empower others and effect positive physical change in our immediate enviroment.

That should propogate a chain reaction ... 100th monkey stuff.

That aside, i have every copy of the mag, have contributed to the letters section and found it very informative re 911 truth, health tips (vit c, ozonated water etc) flouridation info, alternative/suppressed technology, govt coverups etc. In essence its presentation is a reflection of the de-sensitized nature of modern life .. 30 second soundbytes, flashing images .. these things have been programmed into our awarness, so the counterculture must respond by utilising the enemy's tools and strategies. It may not appeal to the more 'refined' amongst us (they can be found twittering away at cocktail parties about the injustices of the modern age.. rarely of any practical use). But a layman may find it intriguing ... the 100th monkey.

If nothing, it is contributing to the collective psychological profile of the human race at the beginning of the 21st century as we awake from our mind controlled slumber. Enough reason for keeping a copy methinks..

We ALL have a reptillian cortex ... it likes shiny @$#&!!*, gut emotive reaction and sensational 'things'... unfortunate name though eh deano. Maybe they should have called it the 'barnyard' cortex :lol:

A definately disjointed and possibly waffling response... but a contribution none the less....

[smashdracs]

It is a great kiwi past-time tearing down anyone who dares to put their head up above the crowd in any way :roll:

[secondfield]

Hey there Jeremy, I reckon your first post in this thread spells it out .. cheers...
we must encourage the sort of work Jonathon and co are doing, if only to instill a staunch state of mind/perspective when facing the tyranny that looms over our heads.

As long as we know we are not alone in our media induced paranoid mindset, then we can turn it around and actively challenge this circus..

Dunno if you can make sense out of that lot?.. :wink:

[Crakka]

[smashdracs]

My comments weren't aimed directly at anyone in this thread or forum btw...

I was just musing out loud in a general way about our culture in NZ.

[Disseminate]

I praise the fact someone is publishing something that isn't your typical mainstream bs about what crisis Britney or Winehouse are currently experiencing (these creatures don't care what I'm up to - and I'm glad), and yes, Kiwis are quick to tear things down. I do not wish to be one of them. I do not seek the publication to stop because there is little out there for the 'masses' with the blinders on to take note of. But I still haven't yet felt compelled to buy a magazine (but I'm not buying anything I don't need anyway so that particular magazine is not indicative of my consumerism - or lack of).

MSM tends to demonise things and the masses demonise it too - whilst not necessarily looking into the 'behind the scenes'. If they don't know the full story, they make it up or threaten to do so.

On saying that, many things MSM report is no doubt fact - but the media is often used as the mask to hide something else by over inflating reports and repeating them. They become puppets whether they know it or not.

Sometimes it's the quieter voices one needs to listen to - and not the ones booming from the mega phone on the mountain top (alternative vs mainstream). Truth, which can appear to be a subjective topic, is a hard thing to find and realise. It's also a hard pill to swallow.

Bottom line - yes, there is an agenda. No, it's not merely a theory. And sheeple need to know that - will it make a difference to the outcome of the experiment? We shall see.

If there are 6 plus billion people on the planet and some elites deem the population needs to be culled to a fraction of that - shouldn't we outnumber the elites? Isn't that where we should find strength? But it's too preposterous to be believable - it needs to be made believeable. A genocide of 1 million with primitive implements can be carried out in 3 months while people stand by watching - how many can be wiped out in 3 DAYS with high tech weaponry?

Those that proclaim their freedom from the hill tops are also claiming their enslavement behind closed doors as freedom of expression without consequence does not exist unless you're talking to yourself (and then you better hope no one hears you answering yourself back - because then there will be consequences too).

[Tranceformer]

Well, I buy a copy every quarter, that's only 4 copies per year folks. Yes some of the info can be found on other sites, but it is the best alternative news magazine available out there for really hard hitting, hit you between the eyes, news stories.

As for Jon Eisen doing the mag to make money - that is completely untrue!
He is doing it for love. :D

Along with the Nexus, i buy them to support these guys for without them, a lot more fellow Kiwis would still be unaware of these issues.